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mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:55 pm
by WishItWas1984
Since my old arcade PC can't run mGalaxy 6, it's using the previous version, but my desktop is running 6.
  • The MAME executable and ROMs and everything else are the same. I literally took it all from the arcade PC and copied to the desktop.
  • I also copied the favorites INI file from my previous version of mGalaxy and put it in my mGalaxy 6 folder, mGalaxy 6 > Data > UserSystems > MAME folder, AND the C: > Users > MyName > AppData > Roaming > mGalaxy > MAME folder
1) When I startup mGalaxy 6 and hit "5" for favorites. I see 155 games. Not 193 like on my arcade PC. One example of a missing game, Ms. Pac-Man w/ Speedup Hack. I see that specific entry on my arcade PC, but not in mGalaxy 6's favorites.

Anyone have any ideas?

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:40 am
by WishItWas1984
I figured it out...*sigh*

It turns out the new database feature of mGalaxy 6 scans the roms w/ different names than the previous version.

I realized that one of the 40+ missing favorites in mGalaxy 6 was the speedup hack version of Ms. Pac-Man.

So I ran mGalaxy 6 and added it as a favorite. Then I opened both my previous "full" favorites list and the one in mGalaxy 6's Data folder.

Turns out before mGalaxy 6 the game was referred to as "Ms. Pac-Man (with speedup hack)" but NOW mGalaxy 6 saves it in Favorites.ini as "Ms. Pac-Man (speedup hack)"

While I'd love to know why, I now have my answer. I now have to put my old Favorites list on my phone and while in mGalaxy 6, manually add the missing 40+ to it and make sure it all matches up. Then backup that Favorites.ini as being uniquely specific to mGalaxy 6 so I don't have to do it again.

Not sure why it couldn't use the universal ROM name so this didn't happen.

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:27 am
by jmd
Turns out before mGalaxy 6 the game was referred to as "Ms. Pac-Man (with speedup hack)" but NOW mGalaxy 6 saves it in Favorites.ini as "Ms. Pac-Man (speedup hack)"
I can't see mGalaxy changing the description of a game!!
To me, you're using a different mame release and there has been changes in some file descriptions between releases.
Check the mame version you're using with your mGalaxy v5 setup and the mame version you're using with your mGalaxy v6 setup...I'm pretty sure this is not the same!
Not sure why it couldn't use the universal ROM name so this didn't happen.
From my understanding the mame files name change very often (the name of the zip file)...where the description stay the same.
So it sounds to me as a good idea to track a game on its description rather than its .zip set name...but I could be wrong so if there's any MAME specialist reading this post, please confirm what I'm saying ;-)

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:16 am
by Aeliss
I can't see mGalaxy changing the description of a game!!
To me, you're using a different mame release and there has been changes in some file descriptions between releases.
I m agree with that, mGalaxy use Mame to make the database, it can't change something.
From my understanding the mame files name change very often (the name of the zip file)...where the description stay the same.
I m not a mame specialist but I never see a chnagement in a rom name, and I update my rom list manualy since many years.

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:34 am
by jmd
I m not a mame specialist but I never see a chnagement in a rom name, and I update my rom list manualy since many years.
Really..are you sure?
The reply to that topic (http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sh ... =5&o=&vc=1) is:
"Set names (or game names, as you seem to prefer) do change very often. for instance every time a more recent revision is dumped and the new one becomes the new parent set (taking the name of the previous one), with the former parent getting a new name." !

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:59 am
by WishItWas1984
I wasn't referring to mGalaxy 6 being the culprit, just that it's displaying the names differently in the Favorites file. I should've been clearer I guess, yes mGalaxy 6 is doing it but it's doing it because the MAME executable is telling it to.

My point still stands. From my example of 40+ description changes from an older MAME to a newer one, it seems to make more sense (over time) to make Favorites adhere to the game zip filename than the description MAME gives it, since that does, and will, change.

I believe your link proves my point. "...for instance every time a more recent revision is dumped and the new one becomes the new parent set (taking the name of the previous one)" Bolded by me for emphasis. It still keeps the game name. So yes, they can re-dump Ms. Pac-Man tomorrow, say the new rom set is better, and make that the parent....but it still takes the name of the previous, which is "mspacman".

If they kept changing names of game zip files, it would be needlessly chaotic.

Anyway, I have a new weird issue. I'm testing an mGalaxy 6 build using 0.175 because my more modern gaming desktop actually has issues w/ the older 0.141u2 that's on my arcade PC. For some weird reason, BMC Bowling is gone. Just GONE. If I run MAME by itself, the game name doesn't show up in Available or Unavailable at all. It's like the MAME devs deleted the game for some reason. Weird. Glad that's the only one. I'll have to post this on a MAME board later and see what's up.

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:20 pm
by Aeliss
I believe your link proves my point. "...for instance every time a more recent revision is dumped and the new one becomes the new parent set (taking the name of the previous one)" Bolded by me for emphasis. It still keeps the game name. So yes, they can re-dump Ms. Pac-Man tomorrow, say the new rom set is better, and make that the parent....but it still takes the name of the previous, which is "mspacman".
Exactly, same for me, it for that I said the name never change, the content is updated, but for you the rom name is always the same.

I m using too, Emuloader http://emuloader.mameworld.info/ to check my roms, It can scan your roms (according to selected mame version) and display lot of info to help to find missing/bugged/incomplete roms.

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:29 am
by WishItWas1984
I m using too, Emuloader http://emuloader.mameworld.info/ to check my roms, It can scan your roms (according to selected mame version) and display lot of info to help to find missing/bugged/incomplete roms.
Thanks for the link. I'm finally going over my complete arcade setup from head to toe and am in the middle of testing that each favorite game starts and plays. This will be a big help.

Re: mGalaxy 6 - Not Showing All Games

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:59 pm
by Aeliss
This application can't download missing files, but at every new mame version, I go to "incomplete rom" > right click > "game detail" read the missing file in the zip file and search it on google to find the correct new file with the missing one.